New plan to police noise in San Francisco
Not that techno parties are ever noisy, of course.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/24/BA0U13N4AT.DTL
New plan to police noise in San Francisco
Wyatt Buchanan, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, October 24, 2008
San Franciscans who are kept awake at night by loud noise, or just driven mad during the daytime, could get new power to help maintain the peace under a proposal making its way through City Hall.
The "Noise Control Ordinance" updates for the first time in more than three decades how the city regulates loud noise from mechanical sources like garbage trucks and ventilation systems along with bass and drum noise from nightclubs, which currently have no restrictions.
"We live in a big city. This is not a small town and we do have to have some latitude around noise levels, but I do think that in certain cases the goodwill and patience of constituents is taken advantage of," said Supervisor Tom Ammiano, who is sponsoring the proposal heard by a supervisors' committee Thursday. The measure should be in front of the full Board of Supervisors for consideration on Nov. 4.
The current noise laws are essentially unenforceable because the original law, passed in 1973, based regulations on zoning, when there were only 19 types of zones. Today, there are more than 90, according to city leaders. The technology used to measure sound also has changed radically.
The proposed law would allow city inspectors responding to a complaint to measure the base level of ambient noise, which largely comes from traffic, and then sets limits on how much that can be exceeded by both commercial and residential sources.
Commercial sources, such as an auto body shop or construction site, could exceed the ambient level by eight decibels while residential sources, like a home air-conditioning unit, could exceed the baseline by five decibels. The interior of residences would be protected by a standard limit of 45 decibels of noise from outside sources. An average speaking voice measures approximately 60 decibels.
If the legislation is approved, "We're going to be able to go to a noisy neighbor and tell them we've got this measurement and the measurement is above a fixed standard," said Dr. Rajiv Bhatia, director of environmental health for the city's Department of Public Health.
Noise violations would become infractions instead of misdemeanor offenses, which officials believe will make enforcement easier. The city's Entertainment Commission would for the first time have authority to regulate low-frequency bass and drum noise.
The proposal does not cover all types of noise, however, including human-generated noises such as shouting and animal-generated noises like crowing roosters, which affects some parts of the Mission. Barking dogs already are regulated by a separate city law.
Helicopters and motorcycles also would be unaffected, and city departments could grant exemptions to permitted businesses and events, such as the Gay Pride Parade.
A noise task force also would be created and would advise the city on other ways to regulate noise.
"This is not the end of the road, but the beginning," Ammiano said.
Some people already are questioning the effectiveness of the updates to the law.
"I don't think this legislation will solve the problem of listening to other people's loud speakers in my home," said Martin MacIntyre, who called the proposal "bass-ackwards" because he believes the task force should be convened before reforms are made.
E-mail Wyatt Buchanan at wbuchanan@sfchronicle.com.

i want to know how loud i fart.
Alland Byallo
Nightlight Music | [KONTROL] | Forward SF
we can arrange that...
Mattie Bowen/Mossmoss | Racecarprod. | NLMX/Nightlight Music.
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Oh come the fuck on, seriously?
We have waaay more important things to worry about. You live in a fucking city, It is noisy. Get used to it.
Sean Knight
www.blipswitch.net
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yeah that always trips me out. when Boca used to operate right by mezzanine, it amazed me to hear that people made noise complaints.
A) you live in a big city (as small as SF is, i see it as that)
B) you live right by the Tenderloin -- crackhead central... noisey
C) you live right by Union Square... buses, tourists, shopping, trains... noisey
if you want a quiet cottage in the country where you can hear the crickets chirp and the flapping of hummingbird wings then move to the fucking country and get a cottage. i find it to be a little self-absorbed and self-whatever when somebody moves somewhere and demands that the environment adapt to THEIR lifestyle. it's just as bad as somebody very loud moving to a very quiet area.
Alland Byallo
Nightlight Music | [KONTROL] | Forward SF
Yeah, welcome to gentrification and all that trendy stuff. :P
Seriously, you get these high income douchebags who want to live in/near these areas because the nightlife scene gives it an edge, then they complain about the noise, the people standing on the sidewalk smoking, and all the other aspects that come with until it gets "cleaned up." Then they complain how mundane the area's gotten and go ruin another neighborhood.
i want my cake, and i want to eat it too!
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www.myspace.com/mattiemossmoss
i want equal rights and everything for free!
I always heard that the noise laws in SF were already like this, as in you could only go 5dB above the ambient noise level. I guess not.. quick! everyone party as fast and as loud as you can!
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maybe thats why they are cracking down on techno parties. Yall need to turn it down ;)
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the end of fun.
whos moving to berlin with me
Berlin is for sell outs. Are you a sell out? :P
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are you sellout since you left detroit?
i never lived in Detroit :( I left Grand Rapids, cause nobody likes EDM, the weather sucks, and everyone was a conservative.
so im a sell out too ;), but only half way.
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dude kenneth... since Berlin has been "cool" for about 5 years now, you're a little late to move there now. Stay ahead of the curve in the future man ;-)
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heh the Berlin techno scene is full of 45 year olds who rabidly tell you things were best in 1993 before the $40 a month rents disappeared.
berlin rules in all ways regarding electronic music despite its overexposure. it just keeps on ticking! there's just this incredible diversity of genres there, all mixing and producing beautiful sounds. I don't really get it, especially since people's dancing is so unrhtymic.